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Experiment with delta T

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4:32 pm
29 July, 2009


Ecologics

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Hi All,

Just a quick note on a little experiment I did on our demonstration solar system here in Ecologics.  From some messing with TSol solar modelling software it seemed to show that reducing the delta T ( the difference in temperature between the solar panel and solar cylinder) settings on the controller would increase efficiency a little bit so I tried it here over the last month or so.

The default delta T setting (DTO and DTF on a Resol solar controller) is often 6 degrees K and 4 degrees K.  This means that the solar controller will switch the pump on when the solar panel is 6 degrees hotter than the lower sensor in the hot water cylinder and switch it off when the solar panel temperature has dropped to 4 degrees above the cylinder.

I changed this to 4 degrees and 2 degrees and left it to see the difference.  What I noticed was the heat that was available in the solar panel transferred to the cylinder quite quickly so I was initially encouraged by this however the energy readings I was getting were poorer over the 30 day period than the previous month.  The average solar energy gathered per day was 3 kWh and this dropped to about 2.5 Kwh.  There are a number of things that might have caused this other than the delta T settings but I have switched the settings back and seem to be getting back to a better heat yield from the solar panel.

3:13 pm
30 July, 2009


Ecologics

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posts 57

One other thing to mention on this is that although the overall energy transfer was lower the speed of transfer from the solar panel to the cylinder would have its' advantages. 

What happens is that the solar panel would heat up to 4 degrees above the cylinder quite quickly and transfer the solar heat to the cylinder. Because the solar panel – (47mm exvacuated tubes in this case,)  only has to heat up a small amount it should require less constant solar radiation to achieve the temperature difference, handy in cloudier weather I reckon – I think I should re try this experiment in October / Novemebr and see what happens..

This set up might suit a work place scenario or car wash/farmyard situation where quicker heat – up times would be advantageous..

6:52 pm
26 December, 2009


heinbloed

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Hi Admin!

What did your experiment deliver in October/November?

For a better gain a larger volume (exposed to the sun's radiation) would be handy. But with the small volume of flat plate collectors we can't harvest more then there is touched by the sun…

The same goes for micro-bore direct flow evacuated tubes  -or even worse- evacuated heat pipe collectors.

The water-in-pipe collectors (evacuated tubes)  offer a 90 liter volume per 4m2 of collector surface, delivering plenty of warm water, even after dark, excellent for the evening peak demands…..

See here for a short info:

http://www.solarthermalworld.org/node/843#comment-63

This installation made of 8 collectors delivers 1-2 hours after dark( pumping at 6+ liters per minute):

http://www.4shared.com/dir/22533121/14e77a6b/sharing.html

Ideal for restaurants, hotels, canteens, gyms ect…Or for home heating as done with the Irish installation shown in the link.

1:29 pm
15 January, 2010


heinbloed

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Did the delta-T experiment deliver any results?

1:53 pm
15 January, 2010


Ecologics

Admin

posts 57

heinbloed said:

Did the delta-T experiment deliver any results?


Hi Heinbloed,

I didn't bother in the end as I'm trying to come up with a complete set of annual figures that might realistically apply to an average operating system which runs on default settings ( 6 degrees on and 4 degrees off).  This is so we can have a better idea of how these panels really perform in an average Irish situation.  Messing around with the delta T in an attempt to improve performance could distort this figure too much and give misleading results.  Maybe 'll look at it again after March when I have a full set of yearly results.

2:16 pm
15 January, 2010


heinbloed

Guest

Thanks!


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